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Bartender
Oct 6, 2009, 09:11 AM
I wanted to share with everyone how I ship my posters. I use this method every time now and I've yet to have a print arrive damaged. This is certainly not the only way to ship but it works well.
First start with craft paper that is cut to about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch shorter lengthwise than the tube. It should be two or three inches longer than the print. If the craft paper is about the same length as the tube it will keep the craft paper from moving in the tube during shipping. Like this:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/Bartender41/ship002.jpg
Next, cut two tabs about halfway up the craft paper. Take care to not cut the print... :shock. The tabs should be long enough so that when they are folded over they "lock" the print in the center of the craft paper. Then fold over the craft paper at the bottom by about 1/2 inch as seen here. Gently roll the print and insert it into the tube. (Hint: don't use anything less than a three inch tube.) Tape the caps to the ends of the tube.
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/Bartender41/ship003.jpg
Next, use a USPS triangular shipping container. They can be ordered here. (https://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10052&productId=10000725&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=10000002&top_category=10000002&categoryId=10000023&top=¤tPage=0&sort=&viewAll=Y&rn=CategoriesDisplay&WT.ac=10000725) The USPS will send them to you for free!
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/Bartender41/ship004.jpg
Place packing material in the end of the triangular shipping container that is closed. Place the tube against the packing material. This will give added support to that end of the container.
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/Bartender41/ship005.jpg
Remove the strip covering the adhesive and close the container. Next, put more packing material in the open end to lock the tube in the center.
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/Bartender41/ship006.jpg
Close the end of the shipping container and tape it shut. Apply extra tape if you feel it is necessary. Put the shipping and return addresses on the container and it is ready to ship! I hope this is helpful. Thanks and cheers! - Allen
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/Bartender41/ship007.jpg
McGinnisM
Oct 6, 2009, 09:13 AM
I love those mailers, they've never failed me!
VA Legend
Oct 6, 2009, 09:13 AM
:golfclap
clwatt3
Oct 6, 2009, 09:15 AM
:)
bluehorseshoe
Oct 6, 2009, 09:17 AM
I just got a poster from Allen and his methods are glorious.
http://i35.tinypic.com/2hcnn8o.gif
TheOcean
Oct 6, 2009, 09:28 AM
Thank you for posting the link to the online ordering. I went to the post office looking for these and they looked at me like I had two heads. They were confused by boxes that "aren't square?"
Bartender
Oct 6, 2009, 09:30 AM
Thank you for posting the link to the online ordering. I went to the post office looking for these and they looked at me like I had two heads. They were confused by boxes that "aren't square?"
You're welcome. I order 10 at a time and they usually arrive in about a week. It's nice to have the extras on hand.
justink
Oct 6, 2009, 09:32 AM
This is EXACTLY what I do. Very nice presentation, thanks for taking the time! Can we sticky this maybe in the FS forum?
I'm waiting for more triangle boxes now. They really help with protecting the tube from rolling around and things crushing it. I wouldn't say failsafe, but this is probably the best method short of shipping PVC tubes.
:thumbsup
toyota
Oct 6, 2009, 09:33 AM
i received a print from methane last year and they used that kraft paper method and both sides of the print were indented / crushed in where those flaps were. i don't know if the USPS slammed the tube real hard on each end over and over or what? obviously i would never trust this method because of that. Besides that it looks like a real nice package job. :boarder
Bluecow003
Oct 6, 2009, 09:35 AM
This thread should be stickied.
RiotAct
Oct 6, 2009, 09:42 AM
Excellent tutorial... terrible print ;)
justink
Oct 6, 2009, 09:44 AM
i received a print from methane last year and they used that kraft paper method and both sides of the print were indented / crushed in where those flaps were. i don't know if the USPS slammed the tube real hard on each end over and over or what? obviously i would never trust this method because of that. Besides that it looks like a real nice package job. :boarder
I worry about this too. But I cut the flaps longer, usually 8-10" so it gives more equal distribution of weight if it does get slammed. Longer flaps = more surface area = good, in most cases... Except belly flops from a high dive, but same principle. If you go head first into water, you "damage" the water more than a belly flop (which damages the body, kraft paper instead).
Did that make sense? :lol
Bartender
Oct 6, 2009, 09:46 AM
i received a print from methane last year and they used that kraft paper method and both sides of the print were indented / crushed in where those flaps were. i don't know if the USPS slammed the tube real hard on each end over and over or what? obviously i would never trust this method because of that. Besides that it looks like a real nice package job. :boarder
That sounds like a rare case. It had to have been slammed to cause those indentations. I still prefer this method because it keeps the entire poster from hitting the ends of the tube and causing damage to the entire side. I'm sorry to here that yours was damaged that way. I think that this method allows for a little "shock absorption" because of the packing materials on the end. No matter who you use for shipping (USPS, Fed-Ex, etc.) there is a chance of damage. Some people deserve a :twak for the way they handle a shipping container...
DMBdolphan
Oct 6, 2009, 10:45 AM
Hey Allen, do you usually add insurance also in such a phenomenal packing job?
McBong
Oct 6, 2009, 10:49 AM
Failure... you forgot to mention to put in old newspaper around the tube inside the box, to help cushion the tube. $11.05 with $200 insurance and delivery confirmation. :thumbsup
Bartender
Oct 6, 2009, 10:53 AM
Hey Allen, do you usually add insurance also in such a phenomenal packing job?
I ALWAYS do insurance and tracking.
clwatt3
Oct 6, 2009, 10:54 AM
I ALWAYS do insurance and tracking.
Can you tell me where my posters are then?
dmbcaptain
Oct 6, 2009, 10:56 AM
What size tube is being used in this tutorial? I use a 4" Yazoo Mills tube, will that fit in those triangle boxes?
Bartender
Oct 6, 2009, 10:56 AM
Failure... you forgot to mention to put in old newspaper around the tube inside the box, to help cushion the tube. $11.05 with $200 insurance and delivery confirmation. :thumbsup
A three inch tube doesn't need paper around it. The triangular shipping containers inside dimensions holds it tight in place. If the tube is smaller than three inches (a no no in my book) then yes, use the extra packing material.
McBong
Oct 6, 2009, 10:59 AM
A three inch tube doesn't need paper around it. The triangular shipping containers inside dimensions holds it tight in place. If the tube is smaller than three inches (a no no in my book) then yes, use the extra packing material.
I never use anything below a 3" tube, and still put in newspaper for cushioning. Also helps absorb water in case of weather related issues. Oh and I put tons of duct tape on the ends and along the spines. Ask anybody that has bought or traded anything with me. :thumbsup
Bartender
Oct 6, 2009, 11:01 AM
What size tube is being used in this tutorial? I use a 4" Yazoo Mills tube, will that fit in those triangle boxes?
I use a three inch tube that I get @ Staples. It's not a thick as a yazoo tube but it works well with the triangular tube. I don't think a four inch would fit.
Gary!
Oct 6, 2009, 11:02 AM
i received a print from methane last year and they used that kraft paper method and both sides of the print were indented / crushed in where those flaps were. i don't know if the USPS slammed the tube real hard on each end over and over or what? obviously i would never trust this method because of that. Besides that it looks like a real nice package job. :boarder
I think if it were slammed hard enough to leave indentations where the flaps are, it would have arrived totally destroyed if that method weren't used.
I love the flaps.
Gary!
Oct 6, 2009, 11:04 AM
PS great process thread Allen.
Bartender
Oct 6, 2009, 11:05 AM
Can you tell me where my posters are then?
Which ones? I hope I didn't screw something up...
clwatt3
Oct 6, 2009, 11:09 AM
Which ones? I hope I didn't screw something up...
:tipofcap Nope, just messin.
Bartender
Oct 6, 2009, 11:13 AM
:tipofcap Nope, just messin.
How do you spell dick?
Bartender
Oct 6, 2009, 11:19 AM
PS great process thread Allen.
Thanks. I hope some find it useful. It works well. I no longer send just the tube and hope for the best. It would be another thing if you had to buy the triangles but the fact that the USPS will bring them to you for free is the bees knees. Oh, and you are the one who I discovered that little fact from. :thumbsup
Bacardibat23
Oct 6, 2009, 11:26 AM
The flaps really help in keeping your prints from getting edgewear... I always do that to my shipped prints, i wish everyone would..
leknows
Oct 6, 2009, 05:20 PM
Great tutorial~!
TDunk
Oct 6, 2009, 05:36 PM
the flaps seem to create a lot of edgewear in my life. i think if you ship in a 4 inch tube then the flaps are necessary...with a 3 inch tube I'm not sure the risk of flap-induced edgewear is worth eliminating the risk of the print bouncing against the edges, since in a 3 incher it is rolled fairly tight.
McBong
Oct 6, 2009, 06:10 PM
the flaps seem to create a lot of edgewear in my life. i think if you ship in a 4 inch tube then the flaps are necessary...with a 3 inch tube I'm not sure the risk of flap-induced edgewear is worth eliminating the risk of the print bouncing against the edges, since in a 3 incher it is rolled fairly tight.
I do the flaps, but I keep a few sheets of pre-cut kraft paper with the flaps already folded down which makes rolling it so much easier. More than likely the edge wear comes when the shipper has to hold them in place or they will try to unfold themselves.
Also another question, do you tape your kraft paper once rolled? I don't, I let the poster and kraft paper take its natural shape inside the tube. Using tape I felt makes the poster roll tighter than it needs to be.
Gary!
Oct 6, 2009, 06:12 PM
Also another question, do you tape your kraft paper once rolled? I don't, I let the poster and kraft paper take its natural shape inside the tube. Using tape I felt makes the poster roll tighter than it needs to be.
If I use a triangle mailer, I let it take the shape of the tube, usually. Otherwise, I tape it tighter than the tube so it has a little bit of a buffer if it gets smashed.
burton
Oct 6, 2009, 06:15 PM
I received one from bartender and it came in great shape!
rickyh24
Oct 6, 2009, 06:19 PM
Just ordered myself some of those mailers. Hopefully they have some at the PO when I go to ship a poster tomorrow.
McBong
Oct 6, 2009, 06:37 PM
If I use a triangle mailer, I let it take the shape of the tube, usually. Otherwise, I tape it tighter than the tube so it has a little bit of a buffer if it gets smashed.
I never ship anything without a triangle mailer. I have 90+ in storage... and you wonder why they raise our postage rates.
thesavageguy
Oct 6, 2009, 07:03 PM
I believe a proper shipment requires a licking from McBong's gal pal.
TDunk
Oct 6, 2009, 09:28 PM
im going to switch to fedex air for now.
Rob D
Oct 7, 2009, 09:25 AM
I'm going to sticky this in the B/S/T forum if that's cool. Great thread.
dmbcaptain
Oct 7, 2009, 09:29 AM
Do you use a weaker tube because of the triangular box or still use a crush proof tube?
TheOcean
Oct 7, 2009, 09:30 AM
Do you use a weaker tube because of the triangular box or still use a crush proof tube?
I'm hoping still crush proof. Those tubes are nice, but never assume they're crush proof as well.
Gary!
Oct 7, 2009, 09:30 AM
Do you use a weaker tube because of the triangular box or still use a crush proof tube?
I'm hoping still crush proof. Those tubes are nice, but never assume they're crush proof as well.
I don't see any reason to EVER use a crappy tube.
clwatt3
Oct 7, 2009, 09:31 AM
Do you use a weaker tube because of the triangular box or still use a crush proof tube?
I still use the thicker tubes in the ∆ boxes.
Bartender
Oct 7, 2009, 09:32 AM
Do you use a weaker tube because of the triangular box or still use a crush proof tube?
I don't consider any cardboard tube to be crush proof but some are thicker than others. I use a three inch tube I get at Staples. It's not as thick as a yazoo tube but with the triangle box it seems to work just fine. I've yet to have one arrive damaged. :fingerscrossed
Bartender
Oct 7, 2009, 09:32 AM
I'm going to sticky this in the B/S/T forum if that's cool. Great thread.
Cool by me. Thanks.
DMBfan
Oct 7, 2009, 09:33 AM
sometimes those middle edge holders can be bad news, i've received a poster from Methane where the edges were hurt. I assume it would be ok in a mailer though.
dmbcaptain
Oct 7, 2009, 09:38 AM
I still use the thicker tubes in the ∆ boxes.
Thanks. I received a Staples tube by itself recently and I could squeeze the tube with my hand. I was surprised someone would ship in a tube like that. It was thinner than the ones the WH and Methane use.
Bartender
Oct 7, 2009, 09:39 AM
sometimes those middle edge holders can be bad news, i've received a poster from Methane where the edges were hurt. I assume it would be ok in a mailer though.
I wish Methane and the Wh would use this method. I don't see it happening though...
Gary!
Oct 7, 2009, 09:43 AM
Do you use a weaker tube because of the triangular box or still use a crush proof tube?
I wish Methane and the Wh would use this method. I don't see it happening though...
I would guess that's way too much work for them for posters they're selling for "only" $40, and, in the case of the WH... posters they're selling that they'll mishandle completely before sending anyway.
clwatt3
Oct 7, 2009, 09:43 AM
I wish Methane and the Wh would use this method. I don't see it happening though...
At least they started using Kraft paper.
Rob D
Oct 7, 2009, 10:23 AM
At least they started using Kraft paper.
atta boy.
Bartender
Oct 7, 2009, 10:36 AM
At least they started using Kraft paper.
I thought Kraft made cheese.
:sadie
jive
Oct 8, 2009, 08:18 AM
WH shipping sucks, still waiting on my Tinley shipped back on the 26th of september
School
Oct 26, 2009, 11:12 PM
Im sorry to start a thread for this but i can find a link containing photos on how to properly ship a poster. im buying a poster off someone who has never shipped one and i want to make sure he does it correctly. I know i saw something on EB that explained and showed pictures but i cant find it now..
Sorry
Bluee2
Oct 26, 2009, 11:16 PM
http://www.daveposters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6276
There you go
Bluecow003
Oct 26, 2009, 11:18 PM
Here is the one from EB:
http://www.expressobeans.com/wiki/index.php/Shipping_Prints
PAKMAN
Oct 26, 2009, 11:20 PM
lock and sink
School
Oct 26, 2009, 11:27 PM
thank you all so much
McGinnisM
Dec 29, 2009, 06:43 PM
Bump for newb's. This can help!
TDunk
Dec 29, 2009, 09:21 PM
its been my experience that when people crumple the ends of the kraft paper back into the middle print it results in edgewear...so don't do that.
mxpxillini35
Dec 29, 2009, 11:07 PM
its been my experience that when people crumple the ends of the kraft paper back into the middle print it results in edgewear...so don't do that.
crumple the ends when someone places the cap on a tube? or cutting the kraft paper to hold the print in place?
TDunk
Dec 30, 2009, 12:27 AM
crumple the ends when someone places the cap on a tube? or cutting the kraft paper to hold the print in place?d
ok lets say you have a 24 inch long tube and the print is 18 inches wide. what i am talking about is someone rolling the print in kraft paper that is near 24 inches wide. then after its rolled, taking the extra kraft paper and crumpling it down into the hole of the rolled poster. then invariably some item like plastic bags or socks are put in the tube to take up the remaining space between the endcap and the poster. i know its hard to envision without pictures. next time i get a poster off someone here and its packaged like that i'll take a picture.
mxpxillini35
Dec 30, 2009, 01:09 PM
d
ok lets say you have a 24 inch long tube and the print is 18 inches wide. what i am talking about is someone rolling the print in kraft paper that is near 24 inches wide. then after its rolled, taking the extra kraft paper and crumpling it down into the hole of the rolled poster. then invariably some item like plastic bags or socks are put in the tube to take up the remaining space between the endcap and the poster. i know its hard to envision without pictures. next time i get a poster off someone here and its packaged like that i'll take a picture.
No...I gotcha...I have done that once or twice...but only a 1/4" or less. I didn't know that caused problems.
Thanks for the heads up...I'll add that to my list of don'ts!
TDunk
Dec 30, 2009, 02:54 PM
No...I gotcha...I have done that once or twice...but only a 1/4" or less. I didn't know that caused problems.
Thanks for the heads up...I'll add that to my list of don'ts!
in my experience it has never resulted in a mint poster...that doesn't mean that i don't just have bad luck or the posters were already damaged. there are many variables...but i think this technique has something to do with it.
Bartender
Dec 30, 2009, 03:07 PM
If the paper is cut to the approximate length of the tube and the tabs to hold the print in the middle of the paper are used then there would be no reason to put anything else inside the paper. Or so it seems to me.
TDunk
Dec 30, 2009, 03:11 PM
If the paper is cut to the approximate length of the tube and the tabs to hold the print in the middle of the paper are used then there would be no reason to put anything else inside the paper. Or so it seems to me.
when i've received this crumple technique there have been no tabs cut.
mxpxillini35
Dec 30, 2009, 03:16 PM
when i've received this crumple technique there have been no tabs cut.
there's your problem...
McGinnisM
Dec 30, 2009, 03:49 PM
I don't do the tabs unless I have paper from someone else that was already cut.
TDunk
Dec 30, 2009, 03:52 PM
there's your problem...
eh...i'm not sold on the tabs. they seem to cause more edgewear than prevent.
rickyh24
Dec 30, 2009, 04:05 PM
I have never used the Tabs and have yet to run into an issue.
TDunk
Dec 30, 2009, 04:14 PM
i get the point of tabs, but it seems like the tab guarantees that the edge is going to be rubbing up against something the entire journey through the mail.
ok someone shoot holes in this shipping technique:
3" x 30" yazoo mills tube
30" x 30" piece of kraft paper (standard rolls seem to be 30" wide and fit perfecty in a 30" yazoo tube.
wrap 18" x 24" print in kraft paper, no tabs. insert into tube.
place tube in USPS Triangular mailer box.
Bluecow003
Dec 30, 2009, 04:19 PM
i get the point of tabs, but it seems like the tab guarantees that the edge is going to be rubbing up against something the entire journey through the mail.
ok someone shoot holes in this shipping technique:
3" x 30" yazoo mills tube
30" x 30" piece of kraft paper (standard rolls seem to be 30" wide and fit perfecty in a 30" yazoo tube.
wrap 18" x 24" print in kraft paper, no tabs. insert into tube.
place tube in USPS Triangular mailer box.
I use 4" x 24" tubes, but I don't think it makes that big of difference.
TDunk
Dec 30, 2009, 04:27 PM
i figure the longer the tube is (30" vs 24"), the less likely the poster is going to slide to the endcaps and incur edgewear.
and i think that while 4 inch tubes have their place, a 3 inch tube does a better job at holding the print in place and not sliding.
leknows
Jan 9, 2010, 11:42 AM
I am a big fan to going with 3x30s as well, as opposed to a 4inch. I think think going with a 4inch is great, provided there are 2 or more prints to protect. Getting multiple prints in a 3inch or smaller tube can create some issues
Bluecow003
Jan 9, 2010, 01:01 PM
I've found that posters flatten much better when shipped in a 4 inch tube. 3 inch is just too tight of a roll for my preference.
leknows
Jan 9, 2010, 03:31 PM
Ive never had a problem flattening anything, 3 or 4, as long as I get it out promptly, and flatten appropriately.
Bluecow003
Jan 9, 2010, 07:22 PM
3 inch isn't a problem for flattening, I just prefer 4 inch. It's just a little easier, but nothing "wrong" with the 3 inch. Just a preference.
Bartender
Jan 14, 2010, 01:16 PM
I just prefer 4 inch. It's just a little easier, but nothing "wrong" with the 3 inch. Just a preference.
That's what she said.
Bluecow003
Jan 14, 2010, 01:26 PM
That's what she said.
:lol You bumped this thread just to say that?
Bartender
Jan 14, 2010, 10:20 PM
I hadn't seen it until today and it was to good to pass up... :lmao
rickyh24
Jan 14, 2010, 10:25 PM
:lol Great bump.
leknows
Jan 29, 2010, 11:41 AM
There is no reason not to use a proper tube. Yazoo now has multi packs (20 prints, 10 of one diameter, one of another). A 3 and 4 inch by 30 is 48.80, or 2.88 per tube!
http://www.yazoomills.com/mailing-tubes/multi-pak-assorted.aspx
Please dont ship in anything but a sturdy mailing tube, for the good of maintaining these great prints! For essentially the price of one show poster (and a little storage room) you can help maintain these prints forever!
Bluecow003
Jan 29, 2010, 12:10 PM
There is no reason not to use a proper tube. Yazoo now has multi packs (20 prints, 10 of one diameter, one of another). A 3 and 4 inch by 30 is 48.80, or 2.88 per tube!
http://www.yazoomills.com/mailing-tubes/multi-pak-assorted.aspx
Please dont ship in anything but a sturdy mailing tube, for the good of maintaining these great prints! For essentially the price of one show poster (and a little storage room) you can help maintain these prints forever!
That's not a bad deal. You basically get 10 3" tubes for $10. I bought a 10 pack of the white 4" x 24" tubes last summer for like $48 shipped. Those things are awesome. The 0.150" thick walls really make a difference. That's one of the major reasons I prefer the 4" tubes. The 3" tubes' walls are quite a bit thinner.
leknows
Jan 29, 2010, 06:12 PM
That's not a bad deal. You basically get 10 3" tubes for $10. I bought a 10 pack of the white 4" x 24" tubes last summer for like $48 shipped. Those things are awesome. The 0.150" thick walls really make a difference. That's one of the major reasons I prefer the 4" tubes. The 3" tubes' walls are quite a bit thinner.
Yeh, I remained unconcerned about the thickness of a tube if it is yazoo, uline or others though....beware.
School
Feb 1, 2010, 01:39 PM
i know its more of a storage question but i want to put archival corners on all my prints before i store them. what do you all suggest and where do i get them thanks
LieIn0urGraves
Feb 1, 2010, 01:45 PM
http://www.dickblick.com/products/lineco-archival-mounting-corners/
I use the 1 3/8"
School
Feb 1, 2010, 01:56 PM
http://www.dickblick.com/products/lineco-archival-mounting-corners/
I use the 1 3/8"
thanks for the fast reply i will be ordering them asap
clwatt3
May 4, 2010, 09:25 PM
How long do I wait to file a claim for an item being undelivered? Mailed USPS Priority April 23 should have been there on the 27th...Tracking details havent been updated.
Class: Priority MailŪ
Service(s): Delivery Confirmation™/Insured > $200
Status: Electronic Shipping Info Received
The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on April 22, 2010 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. Please check again later.
dmbpjfan
May 4, 2010, 09:29 PM
How long do I wait to file a claim for an item being undelivered? Mailed USPS Priority April 23 should have been there on the 27th...Tracking details havent been updated.
is this domestic?
clwatt3
May 4, 2010, 09:39 PM
Yea, Pittsburgh to LA.
dmbpjfan
May 4, 2010, 09:41 PM
Yea, Pittsburgh to LA.
then i cant help you. i know that when ppl send an electronic shipment, it sometimes takes time to show up. sorry
clwatt3
May 4, 2010, 09:43 PM
Yea, last time I do that...I guess they dont scan a package when you drop it off with the shipping already paid for.
dmbpjfan
May 4, 2010, 10:20 PM
also, does anyone know if i can print shipping labels ahead of time via usps?
clwatt3
May 4, 2010, 10:21 PM
What do you mean ahead of time?
dmbpjfan
May 4, 2010, 10:24 PM
What do you mean ahead of time?
like can i print shipping labels right now from my house
clwatt3
May 4, 2010, 10:29 PM
Yes. Thats what I did with my package in question.
Bluecow003
May 5, 2010, 12:41 AM
like can i print shipping labels right now from my house
That's the only way I do things. I buy a label online and then schedule the postman to come pick it up at my house the next morning. I do that all online, works slick.
dmbpjfan
May 5, 2010, 01:24 AM
That's the only way I do things. I buy a label online and then schedule the postman to come pick it up at my house the next morning. I do that all online, works slick.
thanks! except i will not be having someone do a pickup. i live in canada and am ashipping stuff from buffalo when i go to the pj concert. want to have as much ready as I can
heather_honey
Jun 12, 2010, 08:33 AM
Figured I'd add a quick way to get a perfect roll. Use a tube thinner than the shipping tube and wrap the print around it. Hold the print and the thin tube together, drop (gently) into the shipping tube and let go. Remove the thin tube. I've helped an artist pack a ridiculous amount of posters this way in lightning fast time and not a roll bend in sight. I also bring a thin tube to venues so that my prints get home without bends. :)
Bluecow003
Jun 13, 2010, 07:08 PM
Figured I'd add a quick way to get a perfect roll. Use a tube thinner than the shipping tube and wrap the print around it. Hold the print and the thin tube together, drop (gently) into the shipping tube and let go. Remove the thin tube. I've helped an artist pack a ridiculous amount of posters this way in lightning fast time and not a roll bend in sight. I also bring a thin tube to venues so that my prints get home without bends. :)
That's how the guy that made all the Tarantino movie art prints recently shipped them. He kept the small tube with the prints though. First time I had seen anyone do that.
TDunk
Jun 14, 2010, 12:09 AM
damn that is great, i love that idea
heather_honey
Jun 14, 2010, 02:56 PM
Wait until you roll your first poster this way, you'll REALLY love it. NO worries about the people in line behind you freaking out about how long you're taking or wondering just how hard to grip the edge on the first roll. ;)
If you bounce around a lot during shows, do not leave the skinny tube in the bigger one - it could damage your print. The artist who did the Tarantino prints is lucky if they don't get some scuffing from the skinny tube rolling around in there.....
TDunk
Jun 14, 2010, 04:11 PM
Wait until you roll your first poster this way, you'll REALLY love it. NO worries about the people in line behind you freaking out about how long you're taking or wondering just how hard to grip the edge on the first roll. ;)
If you bounce around a lot during shows, do not leave the skinny tube in the bigger one - it could damage your print. The artist who did the Tarantino prints is lucky if they don't get some scuffing from the skinny tube rolling around in there.....
do you have a tube i could buy off you? I think a 2.5 incher would be perfect. i dont remember seeing 2.5 at staples or usps, could be wrong.
Bluecow003
Jun 14, 2010, 04:36 PM
Wait until you roll your first poster this way, you'll REALLY love it. NO worries about the people in line behind you freaking out about how long you're taking or wondering just how hard to grip the edge on the first roll. ;)
If you bounce around a lot during shows, do not leave the skinny tube in the bigger one - it could damage your print. The artist who did the Tarantino prints is lucky if they don't get some scuffing from the skinny tube rolling around in there.....
It was rolled tight around the smaller tube and the kraft paper was taped shut, then the excess kraft paper on the ends was crumpled up. The small tube inside couldn't move at all, so no worries about scuffing the print.
heather_honey
Jun 15, 2010, 01:12 PM
It was rolled tight around the smaller tube and the kraft paper was taped shut, then the excess kraft paper on the ends was crumpled up. The small tube inside couldn't move at all, so no worries about scuffing the print.
Then you've got yourself your show skinny! :)
School
Jul 26, 2010, 10:43 AM
question? the newer show tubes that have been handed out this year would you guys ever ship a poster in them they seem ok ?
clwatt3
Jul 26, 2010, 10:52 AM
question? the newer show tubes that have been handed out this year would you guys ever ship a poster in them they seem ok ?
Maybe in the triangle USPS boxes.
School
Jul 26, 2010, 10:53 AM
Maybe in the triangle USPS boxes.
what do they usually charge to ship those triangle boxes?
clwatt3
Jul 26, 2010, 11:18 AM
Priority, usually costs about $8 w ins and deliv conf.
TDunk
Jul 26, 2010, 11:20 AM
you are probably talking about a 3 x 24 uline with thin walls?
i agree only in a box. otherwise they will probably get crushed.
TDunk
Jul 26, 2010, 05:29 PM
I suggest everyone switch to ERDIE tubes. They are the ones that Slater ships in, as well as the ones Budich used for the Lost prints. They are thicker and cheaper than yazoo. Thoughts?
School
Jul 26, 2010, 05:33 PM
im in need of more tubes to ship stuff where is good place to get them besides ebay? How bout staples?
CBjornson
Jul 26, 2010, 05:33 PM
I suggest everyone switch to ERDIE tubes. They are the ones that Slater ships in, as well as the ones Budich used for the Lost prints. They are thicker and cheaper than yazoo. Thoughts?
They're bitchin. I can literally stand on one and it doesn't budge and I'm 260 pounds. Plus you don't have to tape the end caps or anything. My next round of tube purchases is definitely going to be erdie.
CBjornson
Jul 26, 2010, 05:34 PM
im in need of more tubes to ship stuff where is good place to get them besides ebay? How bout staples?
http://www.erdie.com/shipping-tubes.php
School
Jul 26, 2010, 05:37 PM
http://www.erdie.com/shipping-tubes.php
thanks man whats the safest size to get?
CBjornson
Jul 26, 2010, 05:39 PM
thanks man whats the safest size to get?
3 Inch Inside Diameter Heavy Duty Cardboard Shipping Tubes, .125 inch wall thickness.
24" or 30" depending on your preference. it's only like a $3.50 price difference between the two. Just make sure you get the ones with the .125 inch wall thickness. They're tough as nails.
TDunk
Jul 26, 2010, 05:41 PM
They're bitchin. I can literally stand on one and it doesn't budge and I'm 260 pounds. Plus you don't have to tape the end caps or anything. My next round of tube purchases is definitely going to be erdie.
i do kinda worry that mr postman will see the ends not taped and open up to take a gander what is in there. i know the fuckhead could probably open a taped tube, too, but then there could at least be some evidence of tampering...though he could just retape it. i guess if someone wants to get in either way, they will.
School
Jul 26, 2010, 05:43 PM
3 Inch Inside Diameter Heavy Duty Cardboard Shipping Tubes, .125 inch wall thickness.
24" or 30" depending on your preference. it's only like a $3.50 price difference between the two. Just make sure you get the ones with the .125 inch wall thickness. They're tough as nails.
thanks man now i can ship all my dildos
TDunk
Jul 26, 2010, 05:46 PM
also, with these erdie tubes, the shipping charge is 9.95 but that is a flat rate for your whole order. so for example it seems there are a lot of chicago DPers...y'all could split up 10 boxes and only pay $1.78/tube, whereas Yazoo's 3 x 24 tube is only .10 inches thick and costs $2.28/tube.
CBjornson
Jul 26, 2010, 05:49 PM
i do kinda worry that mr postman will see the ends not taped and open up to take a gander what is in there. i know the fuckhead could probably open a taped tube, too, but then there could at least be some evidence of tampering...though he could just retape it. i guess if someone wants to get in either way, they will.
That's my thoughts as well. The erdie tubes come with tamper proof things on them as well (there was a little thing about it on their website) but I've never received an erdie with the tamper proof tabs in place. All you have to do is twist to break them off. I'm not too worried though, I've never had any such problems with postmen or anything fucking with my tubes.
CBjornson
Jul 26, 2010, 05:50 PM
thanks man now i can ship all my dildos
you're a strange fella :lol
School
Jul 27, 2010, 01:57 PM
3 Inch Inside Diameter Heavy Duty Cardboard Shipping Tubes, .125 inch wall thickness.
24" or 30" depending on your preference. it's only like a $3.50 price difference between the two. Just make sure you get the ones with the .125 inch wall thickness. They're tough as nails.
just ordered the 24in came out to 44.56
School
Jul 31, 2010, 10:17 PM
does usps have any problems with shipping ERDIE tubes with all the writing all over them
School
Aug 1, 2010, 12:01 PM
guys would you be pissed if you purchased a poster and it was shipped in a show tube with craft paper and in a triangle?
RiotAct
Aug 1, 2010, 12:18 PM
guys would you be pissed if you purchased a poster and it was shipped in a show tube with craft paper and in a triangle?
nah -- as long as it arrived in the condition I was expecting.
School
Aug 1, 2010, 12:21 PM
nah -- as long as it arrived in the condition I was expecting.
thanks man im trying something new i did purchase those erdie tubes but there so fucking heavy lol
RiotAct
Aug 1, 2010, 12:23 PM
thanks man im trying something new i did purchase those erdie tubes but there so fucking heavy lol
oh shit :lmao Don't you have any Yazoo Mills or U-Line tubes laying around???
School
Aug 1, 2010, 12:34 PM
oh shit :lmao Don't you have any Yazoo Mills or U-Line tubes laying around???
i ran out lol
CBjornson
Aug 1, 2010, 12:39 PM
thanks man im trying something new i did purchase those erdie tubes but there so fucking heavy lol
just charge a little more to ship. I'd rather have something show up in mint condition (or the condition described) in a nice tube rather than a shitty tube and crushed.
School
Aug 1, 2010, 12:42 PM
just charge a little more to ship. I'd rather have something show up in mint condition (or the condition described) in a nice tube rather than a shitty tube and crushed.
agreed but for some reason i think the show tubes this year seem a bit stronger then they used to be. also securing them in a triangle seems to be perfect
TDunk
Aug 2, 2010, 11:12 AM
depends how much i paid for the print...if it was a Nationals Stadium print that people are paying a pretty penny for, I'd be a little surprised if it showed up in a show tube.
if i bought a mansfield suitcase and it showed up in a show tube, i wouldn't care too much. the triangle helps a little.
Bartender
Aug 2, 2010, 08:54 PM
An update. The link in the OP for the triangular mailers the the USPS sends for free is for the small mailers, which you don't want. You can order the large triangular mailers here. (https://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10052&catalogId=10001&productId=10000724&WT.ac=P_O-1098M)
clwatt3
Aug 2, 2010, 09:05 PM
Allen, I couldnt update your OP with that link.
Allen is right, the new 24" mailers suck. Made of thinner cardboard.
TDunk
Aug 4, 2010, 04:41 PM
anyone know of a triangular mailer box that a 4 x 24 tube would fit in? doesn't have to be free.
Bartender
Aug 4, 2010, 08:25 PM
anyone know of a triangular mailer box that a 4 x 24 tube would fit in? doesn't have to be free.
That must be a really thick tube. If so, you could probably mail it without a triangular mailer. But as the saying goes... insurance, insurance, insurance.
TDunk
Aug 5, 2010, 12:17 AM
i hate how expensive insurance is
Bluecow003
Aug 5, 2010, 12:33 AM
i hate how expensive insurance is
It's completely worth it though. They mangled a $115 print I shipped a few months ago. The print was returned to me and I was awarded the entire insurance value that I requested plus the shipping cost. I would have been S.O.L. without that insurance.
School
Aug 8, 2010, 07:29 PM
It's completely worth it though. They mangled a $115 print I shipped a few months ago. The print was returned to me and I was awarded the entire insurance value that I requested plus the shipping cost. I would have been S.O.L. without that insurance.
how hard is it to prove? and how long does it take to get your cash?
TDunk
Aug 9, 2010, 12:37 PM
how hard is it to prove? and how long does it take to get your cash?took me about 2 weeks to get the check.
emac
Aug 9, 2010, 01:18 PM
^^ Regarding USPS insurance claims: they're really not that difficult. I bought a framed print off of eBay, and even though it seemed to have been packed carefully and with plenty of padding, the glass was still cracked when it arrived. Insurance claim was done completely online, and I got most of the insured amount, which was low, plus the shipping costs via a claims check within 2 weeks or so. (Since shipping alone cost the guy $35 and he had only charged me $15, I was happy with the amount I received, and promptly was able to replace the glass in the frame.) :)
Insurance is mandatory, IMO. Otherwise, someone will be out money if the worst happens.
dmbkyle1
Aug 22, 2010, 06:53 PM
Quick question: Do you ever reuse the tubes that you get in the mail to ship to other people?
LieIn0urGraves
Aug 22, 2010, 06:54 PM
Quick question: Do you ever reuse the tubes that you get in the mail to ship to other people?
Of course
School
Sep 16, 2010, 06:08 PM
is the diameter of the twist n pull tubes lager enough to ship 2 prints safely ? im using the size that the budich faces was shipped in
leknows
Sep 16, 2010, 06:36 PM
is it a 3 or 4 inch? budiches I have gotten are 3 inch, which is questionable to ship to prints in, but not out of the question. My mccarthy sub come with 3 in a 3 (but sometimes is shows....)
School
Sep 16, 2010, 06:37 PM
is it a 3 or 4 inch? budiches I have gotten are 3 inch, which is questionable to ship to prints in, but not out of the question. My mccarthy sub come with 3 in a 3 (but sometimes is shows....)
thanks im pretty sure its a three inch and i got them in perfectly
PAKMAN
Sep 16, 2010, 11:14 PM
thanks im pretty sure its a three inch and i got them in perfectly
That's what she said about you. Oooooh...
clwatt3
Sep 21, 2010, 02:50 PM
When shipping to Canada is there Delivery Confirmation via USPS?
DONT SEE THE OPTION ON THEIR SITE.
TDunk
Sep 21, 2010, 06:08 PM
not unless you ship express.
clwatt3
Dec 16, 2010, 10:49 AM
thanks im pretty sure its a three inch and i got them in perfectly
Bump.
Remember, do not ship with show tubes.
School
Jan 18, 2011, 09:49 AM
Bump.
Remember, do not ship with show tubes.
i shipped mike his cville n2 in the show tube with craft paper that was also placed in a triangle
TDunk
Jan 18, 2011, 11:30 AM
something worth $300-$400 I'd be shipping in PVC.
clwatt3
Jan 18, 2011, 11:33 AM
i shipped mike his cville n2 in the show tube with craft paper that was also placed in a triangle
amateur move. imo.
School
Jan 18, 2011, 11:43 AM
amateur move. imo.
lol i only paid 40 for it lol
jhcmos
Feb 4, 2011, 12:18 PM
I use the triangle box as well. I wrap bubble wrap around the outside ends of the tubes to secure. I am going to start using that trick with the craft paper slits from now on. Thanks for sharing.
School
Mar 1, 2011, 12:50 AM
whats the best way to ship a handbill about the size of a post card
jwally
Mar 1, 2011, 01:01 AM
whats the best way to ship a handbill about the size of a post card
Talk to BacardiBat, he did an amazing job shipping my Kenny Smith dmb letters.
Bartender
Mar 7, 2011, 10:11 PM
whats the best way to ship a handbill about the size of a post card
bubble wrap envelope. With insurance.
danastacy
Aug 19, 2011, 12:19 AM
Can I buy a single sheet of craft paper? If not, can newsprint or tracing paper be substituted?
Also, I happen to have a larger, sturdier tube than the original poster tube. Is it okay if I use that instead of the triangle?
Sorry for the newbie questions, but I want to do this right.
CBjornson
Aug 19, 2011, 12:24 AM
Can I buy a single sheet of craft paper? If not, can newsprint or tracing paper be substituted?
Also, I happen to have a larger, sturdier tube than the original poster tube. Is it okay if I use that instead of the triangle?
Sorry for the newbie questions, but I want to do this right.
A roll of good sturdy craft paper will run you just shy of $4 at any office supply store. I don't believe they sell single sheets. Also, the stronger the tube the better. Yazoo Mills is the preferred brand but if it's sturdy and strong definitely use that over the original tube. However if you don't think it will, the original tube+triangle mailer should work fine, just make sure the poster is still properly secured with craft paper in the original tube, even if using a triangle. Hope this helps!
School
Sep 27, 2011, 07:02 PM
anyone know where i could just purchase tube endcaps?
CBjornson
Sep 27, 2011, 07:04 PM
anyone know where i could just purchase tube endcaps?
http://www.yazoomills.com/mailing-tubes/end-plugs-plastic-metal.aspx
School
Sep 27, 2011, 07:29 PM
http://www.yazoomills.com/mailing-tubes/end-plugs-plastic-metal.aspx
ty so much
vortec42
Sep 28, 2011, 02:41 PM
I'm shipping a $400 print to Canada. Any advice? Ebeans says to skip insurance and send in a PVC tube, due to the customs costs. Looks like priority with insurance would be ~$30, but don't know what customs costs would be on his end.
Any advice?
TDunk
Sep 28, 2011, 03:36 PM
insure it through shipsurance. mark it as a gift. ship in PVC.
probably some holes in this, but IMO the best and cheapest bet to cover your ass.
vortec42
Sep 30, 2011, 02:20 PM
Ok, we decided to do the PVC tube route. I'm fairly handy, but could use some advice for shipping in PVC. Any tips? Do I want threaded PVC? I'm guessing I shouldn't glue it. Ha.
TDunk
Sep 30, 2011, 06:17 PM
not threaded
glue?
just put a 4 inch endcap on and tape it and you should be fine.
vortec42
Sep 30, 2011, 09:24 PM
not threaded
glue?
just put a 4 inch endcap on and tape it and you should be fine.
Yeah, glue. I was thinking about how to fasten the caps on. I guess I was overthinking it.
http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/plumbing/technique/pvc/gluing/pbtxga41a_glue_pvc.jpg
saxlover
Dec 23, 2011, 01:13 AM
pros!!!!
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